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Soft Power From Can-Am Outlander 800R

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Question:

Dear Motorhead,

Recently Luke did a review on Dirt Trax Television on Can-Am’s Outlandler 800 with power steering. I believe that it was a 2010. He mentioned that the power was off down low when compared with an 2008.

Is this the new norm for Can am? Can it be fixed with a new clutch kit like the one you guys put on a Polaris 800? This really leaves me baffled as to whether I should buy a Can-Am.

Thanks for your help.

Bruce

Reply:

Hey Bruce,

Thanks for your question. Here’s some insight into the Outlander 800R lineup for 2010. In 2009 the 800R came out and everyone was amazed by its power. The problem was that it hit so hard down low it became hard to control in tight situations and was actually frustrating to ride sometimes.

No doubt, if you were on a fast trail or open fire road it was awesome. But picking through rocks and tight stuff was difficult. So, for 2010 Can-Am softened the clutching on all 800R powered ATVs, which made them infinitely easier to ride in the tight stuff.

It didn’t hurt the top end at all but, softening the clutching did make them feel a little less impressive on initial squeeze. Even though we did ask for this change, we think they may have softened it up a bit too much. Now the 800Rs feel lazy on in initial squeeze and believe me, its not the motor. This is still the most power ATV you can buy.

I really do think a clutch kit, or even getting clutching from an 2009 would bring back that insane bottom end snap. The ’09 clutching would obviously bring back that lack of slow speed control, but if you can live with it, it sure feels good.

I hope this helps explain things and on a side note, the 800 MAX still has enough down low to pull 2-up wheelies.

Sincerely,

Luke Lester
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ITP BAJACROSS TIRES DOMINATE THE BAJA 1000!

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ITP BAJACROSS TIRES DOMINATE THE BAJA 1000!

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There is no tougher test of man and machine than the SCORE Baja 1000. ITP has just aced that test by winning the 2009 event in the Sportsman UTV class on BajaCross tires and T-9 Pro Mod wheels.

This class was dominated by the Team Green Kawasaki DragonFire Racing team, with Reid Nordin, Hans Waage, Todd Romano and Larry Roeseler at the wheel of their Kawasaki Teryx.

This talented crew enjoyed a nearly flawless run, completing the 672-mile/1000-kilometer course in northern Baja in a time of 24:32:37, for an average speed of 27.41 mph over what many considered to be one of the most demanding Baja 1000 courses in some time.

Of 328 starters, just 185 finished — only 56.4 percent! It was the second big win for the team this season, having captured the Baja 500 in June on BajaCross tires as well.

If not for some fuel-related technical issues, the second car fielded by this team could have had a real shot of making it a one-two performance. Driving duties in the DragonFire Racing-prepped ITP/Carlisle Teryx were handled by Dave Roberts, Bob Viau, Chris Koch, John McCarthy, Cody Currie and Fred Sutter, with backing from Black Rock off-road wheels and Ultimax performance belts.

This entry was the fourth Sportsman UTV entry to cross finish line in Ensenada, but was just outside the official time limit. This was an outstanding performance for a team with limited experience in Baja, in a new car that was put together in a very short timeframe. Everyone agreed that it was a great adventure, and vowed to return.

Both teams benefited greatly from the durability and performance of their ITP BajaCross tires and new ITP T-9 Pro Mod spun aluminum wheels (with ITP T7 Beadlock rings).

In an event that’s notoriously tough on tires, neither team suffered a single tire failure. The Roberts-led squad even ran the same set of tires and T-9 Pro Mod wheels they used for over 200 miles of pre-running in the weeks leading up to the event! It was an outstanding debut for the T-9 Pro Mod, proving their lightweight yet durable capabilities in the world’s most rigorous test lab.

Congratulations to everyone involved in this inspiring effort. You showed once again how tough it is to compete in the Baja 1000, and how ITP tires and wheels can stand up to the test!

Yamaha Supports National Hunting and Fishing Day

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Richard Letissier from Dallas is Awarded New 2009 Yamaha Grizzly 550 FI EPS

Yamaha Outdoors continues to support National Hunting and Fishing Day (NHF Day) and is pleased to announce the winner of the 2009 Yamaha-NHF Day sweepstakes.

Determined by random drawing, Yamaha congratulates Richard Letissier from Dallas who has won a new 2009 Yamaha Grizzly 550 FI ATV with Electric Power Steering (EPS).

Yamaha, through its relationships with organizations such as Ducks Unlimited, Safari Club International, Buckmasters, National Wild Turkey Federation and NHF Day, is a continued supporter of conservation efforts for outdoor recreational enthusiasts.

During its second year partnering with NHF Day, Yamaha was able to help make the 2009 celebration a great success – with registered events taking place across more than 40 states.

“Conservation efforts for hunting, fishing and other recreational activities are very important to Yamaha, and through our partnerships with awareness programs such as NHF Day we can expand our own efforts to support safe, responsible enjoyment of these activities,” said Steve Nessl, marketing manager for Yamaha’s ATV/SxS group. “Congratulations to Mr. Letissier, and we hope he enjoys his new Yamaha Grizzly 550 ATV with electric power steering and the most off-road capability in its class – a perfect ATV for outdoorsmen.”

Scheduled annually on the fourth Saturday of September, this year’s celebration of hunting, fishing and conservation took place on September 26, 2009.

NHF Day was formalized by Congress as a public reminder that hunters, anglers and shooters are America’s premier conservation supporters who generate $100,000 every 30 minutes for fish, wildlife and habitat programs.

The annual events provide an opportunity to share that message and introduce new participants to outdoor recreational activities while showing the nation what a positive impact these activities have on conservation efforts.

In addition to sponsoring outdoors conservation groups, Yamaha launched its OHV Access Initiative in January of 2008, and has since approved more than $1 million in GRANTs across the country supporting its mission of safe, responsible riding and open, sustainable trails.

Through its partnership with Outdoor Life’s Save a Stream program, Yamaha is helping promote this responsible message to all outdoorsmen and women.

ARCTIC CAT THUNDERCAT ATV WINS THE BAJA 1000

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ARCTIC CAT THUNDERCAT ATV WINS THE BAJA 1000

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A First-Ever Undefeated SCORE Season Leads To Championship Record

Arctic Cat and its factory off-road racers are setting more “firsts” for the company and the sport of off-road racing than anyone else.

The Arctic Cat/Fines Double Racing team (FDR) delivered another record-setting performance at the SCORE-Tecate Baja 1000 off-road race, winning the 4×4 Utility ATV class aboard the powerful Thundercat 1000 H2. The FDR team swept the entire 2009 SCORE series, including wins at the Baja 250 and 500.

The Arctic Cat/FDR team achieved their unmatched results by pressing the advantage of the industry’s most powerful production ATV. The 951cc V-Twin with EFI helped provide the muscle, torque, horsepower and acceleration necessary to dominate the demands of high speed desert racing.

“Our Thundercats are race-proven, with several thousand miles stacked up on the odometer,” said team captain Reid Rutherford. “This 2009 Baja 1000 win completes 13 finishes in a row between Nevada’s Best-In-The-Desert series and the SCORE Off-road series. This is our 9th Baja finish in a row, which is an unheard of record when it comes to competing in long distance races as brutal and unforgiving as the Baja, and that’s something that our team, sponsors and Arctic Cat can be proud of.”

Arctic Cat Race Coordinator, Ted Bettin said, “We are extremely proud of the FDR team, the historic win and championship, our ATVs and our continued success in Baja.

“In 2008 an Arctic Cat Prowler became the first UTV to finish and win the Baja 1000. This year we were the first to sweep the entire series in the ATV class. That’s a bold statement about the performance and durability of every Arctic Cat ATV and UTV.”

For more information on the Arctic Cat Thundercat 1000 H2 4×4, log onto www.arcticcat.com or visit your local dealer.

BRP Takes More Championships Out West

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Motoworks / Can-Am DS 450 Racer Jeremie Warnia Wins Quadcross Open Pro Title

Team Motoworks / Can-Am is celebrating another Can-Am DS 450 championship after Jeremie Warnia raced to the ITP Quadcross Open Pro championship last weekend at Glen Helen Raceway near San Bernardino, CA.

By winning the second moto of the Open Pro class, Warnia secured the overall for the weekend and his class championship.

His teammate, Dillion Zimmerman, clinched the 450 Production Expert class championship, too. This is Zimmerman’s second championship for Team Motoworks / Can-Am on his DS 450.

“Jeremie Warnia showed how tough of a racer he was by battling the rough conditions to win the Open Pro championship at Glen Helen,” says Jimmie O’Dell, Racing Manager for Can-Am ATVs at BRP. “We are excited he will be racing the AMA Pro ATV Nationals next year for Motoworks and look forward to seeing him build upon his success in the ITP Quadcross series this season.”

Warnia was close to making it a sweep of both Quadcross Pro-class championships this season as he led the points race in the Pro 450 Production class heading into the final race.

In the first Pro 450 moto, a bad start forced him to work through traffic where he finished fourth. In the second moto, however, he didn’t get the finish he needed to hold onto the points lead and finished second in the championship by only a handful of points.

Chad Wienen raced in the Pro 450 Production class and went 3-1 in the two motos to finish second overall on his Motoworks-prepped DS 450.

Teammate, Josh Fredericks finished sixth overall in the Pro 450 Production class for the weekend on his DS 450. Local rider, Lance Hancock rode his DS 450 to convincing overall wins in both the Open Production Beginner class and the 450 Production Beginner classes.

For more information on Can-Am racing, our 2009 contingency program and amateur DS 450 support program, please visit www.can-amxteam.com.

Question About Outlaw IRS

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Question:

I watched a recent episode of Dirt Trax featuring the Polaris Outlaw IRS and you said it was a great ATV for trails, but didn’t see it as a track ATV and I was wondering why?

I enjoy weekend trail riding and at 46, was wondering what you might recommend for some light racing for us older guys who still have to go back to work on Mondays.

Mike

Reply:

Thanks for your question!

The problem with the Outlaw IRS is that the rear end is really quite soft. This is why its such a great trail ATV, but it tends to jump VERY nose high.

The rear end doesn’t have enough rebound to kick the back up off the lip of a jump. Its not that it can’t be jumped, its just not as good as a real motocross ATV. Furthermore, the extra weight will be noticeable on a moto track as will the body roll. On the trail though, these traits aren’t at all a problem.

If you’re looking to do some light racing I suggest picking up a used sport ATV, something like a Suzuki 450 or a Yamaha 450. The nice thing about the Suzuki is many of them came from the factory 50 inches wide so you wouldn’t need to worry about widening it. I suggest staying away from any modified ATVs.

If you want an ATV for trail riding that you could use at the track, get a 525 IRS Outlaw and try stiffening up the rear shocks a lot. That may help with the nose high jumping and body roll in the corners.

Hope this helps.

Luke Lester
Dirt Trax Television

OUTLANDER vs. RENEGADE vs. SPORTSMAN

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Question:

I had 2 Outlanders and loved them, but the frame bent the 2 trailing arms on my first so the second one I welded angles on them both before I even rode the machine and it seem to work good.

I ride pretty hard sometimes and love the handling of the Outlander, but I know I need to put a good bit of work into it that, for the money, I shouldn’t need to do.

I took a short test ride on an 850 Sportsman and a Renegade but I’m not sure if either is for me. All I know is I got a 2009 brute force 750 and I wish I had my Outlander back.

Brad

Reply:

Thanks for your question and I hope I can shed some light on your dilemma. The Outlander 800 and the Renegade 800 are essentially the same ATV with different plastic and different parts bolted on here and there.

The chassis and suspension is basically the same so if you like one, its most likely your going to feel comfortable on the other. Though the Renegade does have a much stiffer ride. With that said, it has WAY higher quality and far more adjustable shocks so its likely you can get it to ride the way you like.

We’ve heard stories about Outlander frames cracking and failing at the front where the boxed frame bends down under the bike. They are prone to getting bashed in on rocks and getting weak, then cracking. I have never heard of anyone breaking their frame and suspension where you have. I would have to assume that if your riding your ATV hard enough to break or bend it the way you say you have your probably going to have a problem with any ATV.

The Sportsman 850 is definitely a sweet bike. It rides and handles amazingly and the 850 engine is impressive. We’ve put our Sportsmans through their paces in some seriously gnarly terrain and bashed them pretty hard without any serious issues. We haven’t broken or bent anything major and have been impressed with their durability this season. Though, its important to remember this is their first season so longer term durability is still not proven.

From my personal experiences the Sportsman Outlander have both held up equally as well during our testing. For me, the Sportsman is just a bit more comfortable, but I would pick the Outlander a very close second – especially now that it has power steering.

Sincerely,

Luke Lester
Dirt Trax Television

MOTOWOZ XC Piggyback Shocks

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MOTOWOZ XC Piggyback Shocks

Shocks Feature Exclusive ‘Tucked-in’ Configuration, XC Springs

MOTOWOZ Performance Systems is proud to announce the release of its new front piggyback shocks for cross-country ATV racing.

The XC Piggyback Shock features an exclusive “tucked-in” reservoir configuration to provide an enhanced fit and improved durability and XC-specific springs.

“The reservoir is packaged much closer to the main body of the shock,” explained Jim Jaworski, MOTOWOZ president. “We engineered the shock this way because our experience has shown most racers will run some type of a long-travel A-arm. With the more typical piggyback design, the shock’s reservoir can hit the A-arm in the backside of the ball joint area as the shock moves deeper into its travel. Our compact design eliminates that problem.”

Many competitive shock brands incorporate remote reservoirs for use on ATVs set up for cross-country racing. MOTOWOZ took that knowledge into account and also knows many cross-country A-arms have an integrated adjustment area or device to alter the machine’s caster. Jaworski said this caster-altering mechanism consumes more valuable space and increases the likelihood of contact with a shock’s reservoir. “Our tucked-in setup also makes for a more refined package as opposed to exposed remote reservoirs. They stick out less, require less components during the bolt-on stage and are less likely to make contact with another quad or obstacle on the trail.”

The MOTOWOZ XC Piggyback shock features Adjustable Spring Progression (ASP), which gives the end user or shock tuner endless adjustment scenarios for racing off-road. The shocks are adjustable for compression and rebound and include a particular triple-rate XC Spring package that has been specifically calibrated for cross-country applications.

“Our compression and rebound adjuster effectively changes the shock’s internal settings and alters how the oil flows as the shock travels through its various strokes. Both adjusters also work in conjunction with relief valves that make them velocity sensitive,” explained Jaworski. “With our tunable, progressive spring package you can truly control the point where each spring takes over during the suspension process. In addition, you can make these adjustments with the shocks mounted to your quad, which ultimately saves you time and energy.”

Dustin Nelson Wins West Coast’s Premier Pro MX

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Yamaha Factory Rider Dustin Nelson captured his third QuadCross Series title aboard his YFZ450R this past weekend at Glen Helen Raceway in Southern California. This is Nelson’s second consecutive Yamaha/ITP QuadCross championship and his first full year of competition on the YFZ450R.

Nelson posted first and second place finishes in respective motos during the final QuadCross event, which earned him the overall victory for the day and enough points for the series championship. Also riding Yamaha YFZ450Rs this season, racers Justin Noss and Jason Dunkleberger finished in third and fourth place respectively, putting three Yamaha’s in the overall top five for the year.

“I’m really happy and excited that all of our hard work paid off in another championship for Yamaha,” Nelson said. “On today’s rough high-speed track, the YFZ450R’s handling and power just shone through.”

“Yamaha congratulates Dustin on another outstanding race season, and we’re excited to see him bring home a third championship aboard a YFZ,” said Steve Nessl, Yamaha’s ATV group marketing manager. “Yamaha is proud to support Nelson and the entire QuadCross series. As a co-title sponsor, we believe the series is an excellent proving ground for the high-performance YFZ450R.”

Nelson has had a long relationship with Yamaha as a test rider and Factory Racer, and assisted in the development of the YFZ450R before it was introduced last fall. He was the first to race the YFZ450R at last year’s QuadCross Finale when he captured the 2008 championship. This year he took four top spots throughout the nine month series, including a win at this weekend’s Glen Helen finale, to close out his championship season.

Nelson’s 2009 season sponsors included Yamaha, Genuine Yamaha Technology Racing (GYTR®) and Yamalube. His 2009 championship winning race quad ran GYTR accessories, made especially for racing and performance enthusiasts, including the cylinder head, performance camshafts, piston kit, fuel controller, high flow air filter, adaptor plate, nerf bars, skid plates, sport front bumper and clutch components.

BEST IN CLASS AWARDS AVAILABLE NOW

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BEST IN CLASS AWARDS AVAILABLE NOW

The latest issue of All-Terrain Vehicle Magazine will be landing in mailboxes and on newsstands soon.

This issue features the annual Best In Class awards where we pick winners in such categories as:

– Best Sport Big Bore Ute
– Best Mid Range Sport Ute
– Best Pure Sport
– Best Trail Sport
– Best Value
– Best 2-Up
– Best UTV

This issue also features reports on Kymco’s 500 MXU, Can-Am’s Renegade Xxc, Arctic Cat’s Prowler 100 XTZ, Yamaha’s YFZ 450X and Can-Am’s Spyder Roadster.

You’ll also read about the most innovative product for preventing flats that we’ve come across, plus regular columns from Motorhead Mark Lester and our very own Outdoorsman, John Arkwright.

This issue is jam-packed with great info, so make sure you get your copy.

Subscribe today to have All-Terrain Vehicle Magazine delivered right to your door. Right now you can get twelve issues for only $15!

Click here to subscribe and to find great exclusive editorial and photos.

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